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<h2 class='date-header'><span>Saturday, October 19, 2002</span></h2>

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<st1:personname><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;">Todd Swift</span></st1:personname><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;">'s work in the poetry-music duo <a href="http://writing.upenn.edu/epc/mirrors/ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2002_09_01_ronsilliman_archive.html%2381766519">Swifty
Lazarus</a> allowed us to pose the question of how well intermedia presents
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is hardly the first book to pose this issue. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The All-Union Day of the Shock Worker</i>, by Edwin Torres (Roof, 2001)
is an in-depth collection by one of the most brilliant performance poets alive,
but I couldn't work through its use of typographic pyrotechnics until I had
actually heard Torres for myself. In ways that are not apparent from the text,
or at least were not to me, that experience opened up the work &#8212; I could <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">hear</i> it, even in poems that I had not
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;">Some of these same issues
bedevil <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Short Fuse,</i> but principally
for those poets not represented on the book's companion CD. The disc contains
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;">But Penn Kemp, to pick one
example, is a superb sound poet &amp; enormous fun to see on stage. Her texts
on the page offer no sense of the extraordinary phonemic overload that comes
with her words. Ditto, tho more in a jazz vein, <span class="SpellE">Adeena</span>
<span class="SpellE">Karasick</span>. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: Arial;">Even though there are
performance poets whose work can be adequately represented on the page, such as
Holman or Willie <span class="SpellE">Perdomo</span>, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Short Fuse</i> is wise to include the CD even though it only contains
34 of the project&#8217;s 175 writers. But what it points to is the probability that
the future of representing such work may not be on the page, nor on the CD, but
rather in the fuller (tho more costly) medium of DVD<span class="GramE">.*</span>*<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">* In retrospect,
this reminds me of something Josephine Miles once said to me about William
Carlos Williams, that writers of her generation literally did not know how to
read him at first, they could not <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">hear</i>
his poetry, its foundation in speech, which seems self-evident to somebody my
age, was not at all apparent. Yet over a couple of generations, Williams
literally changed what poets understand as &#8220;clarity.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">**Indeed, </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Ram Devineni</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, the publisher of Rattapallax Press,
tells me that if the anthology gets a sufficiently positive response, he and
its editors have discussed a bi-annual journal that might come out with a DVD. Rattapallax
already issues a CD with each book it publishes.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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taking with me will be <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Your Ancient See
Through</i> by Hoa Nguyen and <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Clean and
Well Lit</i> by </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Tom
 Raworth</span></st1:personname>.<span style="font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">In the meantime, </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">U.S.</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> readers should participate in the <a href="http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/index.html">Dialect Survey</a>.
It consists of 122 questions concerning vocabulary, pronunciation and usage,
every one of which is worth pondering. I am of course reminded of the
linguistic geography of the </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">United States</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> that Jack Spicer worked on some 40 years ago. This
survey, I suspect, is a descendant of that research. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Contemplating for a moment
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<b>103. What do you call the thing from
which you might drink water in a school?</b><br />
a) <input name="q103" type="radio" value="1" />bubbler<br />
b) <input name="q103" type="radio" value="2" />water bubbler<br />
c) <input checked="" name="q103" type="radio" value="3" />drinking fountain<br />
d) <input name="q103" type="radio" value="4" />water fountain<br />
e) <input name="q103" type="radio" value="5" /><span style="display: none; mso-hide: all;"><input name="q103-other-choice" type="hidden" value="5" /></span>other:
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">I&#8217;m reminded that Rochelle
Nameroff identifies &#8220;bubbler&#8221; as an aspect of the language of her native city, </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Milwaukee</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">. It is, as she likes to put it, &#8220;&#8217;M'waukee talk.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Which, in turn, leads me to <a href="http://www.avbc.com/visit/boontling.html">Boontling</a>, the most radical
of regional American dialects. Boontling, short for Boont lingo, Boont standing
for Boonville, a town in the Anderson Valley of Northern California, roughly
two-thirds of the distance north from San Francisco on the way to Mendocino.
Quite isolated in the 19<sup>th</sup> century, the teenagers in Boonville,
Philo and Anderson developed a code some time around 1890 that enabled them to
talk salaciously in the general vicinity of the elders without invoking
censorship or retribution. But of course the teenagers all became adults and in
that region during that period, relatively few of them left for the wide world
and just as few newcomers moved into the community, so by, say, World War I,
boontling had become the daily discursive mode of the region. Boontling held
reasonably contained and coherent until after the Second World War when first
radio and then television finally reached the valley. Now the only speakers
left apparently are adults who learned it from their grandparents. Sometimes
you will see a Boontling speaker at a folk festival, telling a familiar tale in
that all but impenetrable variation of English. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">It&#8217;s been years since I&#8217;ve
been to Boonville, but even in the 1980s, pay telephone booths were labeled
Buck Walter (literally: <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">nickel phone</i>).
Charles Adams wrote a most useful volume, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Boontling:
An American Lingo, with a dictionary of Boontling</i> that the </span><st1:place><st1:placetype><span style="font-family: Arial;">University</span></st1:placetype><span style="font-family: Arial;"> of </span><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial;">Texas</span></st1:placename></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">
press published in 1971. The dictionary alone is over 100 pages long. Copies
can be found through <a href="http://www.abebooks.com/">abebooks.com</a>,
though the hardback prices strike me as a little pricey. Most of the websites on
the topic are pretty limited. The one link I gave above comes from a regional
brewery site, but it&#8217;s the best short introduction I&#8217;ve encountered. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Tom Bell writes:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Is there
room on your blog for a consideration of &#8220;asyntactical tactics of Language poetry?&#8221;
<span class="GramE">(p. 13 in O&#8217;Leary&#8217;s <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Gnostic
Contagion: Robert Duncan and the Poetry of Illness</i>?).</span> This struck me
as a misapprehension that is probably common but I&#8217;m not sure why as I can&#8217;t
tell if the &#8216;<span class="GramE">a</span>&#8217; in asyntactical is to be read like the
&#8216;a&#8217; in agnostic or the &#8216;a&#8217; in atheistic. Actually, I don&#8217;t think either
applies?</div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">I can&#8217;t say that I know Leary&#8217;s text, but I&#8217;ve heard
that charge before. It&#8217;s one of my <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Top
10 Myths about Language Poetry</b>:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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&lt;![if !supportLists]&gt;<span style="font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">&#167;<span style="font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">Language poetry
is non-narrative<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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&lt;![if !supportLists]&gt;<span style="font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">&#167;<span style="font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">Language poetry
is a- (or anti-) syntactical <br />
(alternate version: language poetry = word salad)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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&lt;![if !supportLists]&gt;<span style="font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">&#167;<span style="font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">Language poetry
is academic<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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&lt;![if !supportLists]&gt;<span style="font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">&#167;<span style="font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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is poetry written to prove a theory<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">Language poetry
is New Criticism with a human face<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">Language poetry
has no humor<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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has no interest in people<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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began in 1978<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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is anything written since 1978 <br />
(alternate versions: since 1970; since 1990)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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is anything &#8220;I don&#8217;t understand&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Some of these of course are simply silly. Of the 40
writers included in <span class="SpellE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">In</i></span><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"> the </i></span><st1:country-region><st1:place><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">America</span></i></st1:place></st1:country-region><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">n Tree</span></i><span style="font-family: Arial;">, exactly eight have (or have had) tenure track
positions in college-level literature programs. Of those eight, three (Watten,
Perelman, Davidson) were hired as modernists rather than as poets, while David
Bromige was hired onto the </span><st1:place><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial;">Sonoma</span></st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial;"> </span><st1:placetype><span style="font-family: Arial;">State</span></st1:placetype></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">
faculty before anybody there had ever heard the dread phrase &#8220;language-centered
writing.&#8221; This leaves exactly four human beings who could plausibly have been
hired in part for their accomplishments as poets related to the social
phenomenon that is langpo: Bernstein at </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Buffalo</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">, Hejinian only very recently at Berkeley, and Susan
&amp; Fanny Howe, both now retired. More language poets work in the computer
industry, frankly.*<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">But to tackle the non-narrative &amp; word salad
canards, <span class="GramE">lets</span> take a look at some recent work from
Bruce Andrews&#8217; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><a href="http://www.chbooks.com/tech/books.cgi?bk=lip_service">Lip Service</a></i>,
a &#8220;recasting&#8221; of Dante&#8217;s <span class="SpellE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Paradiso</i></span>.
This passage comes from &#8220;Moon I,&#8221; the first piece in the second section of this
book:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Charm Master, let&#8217;s say I repeat mere
outline of<br />
somehow pumps<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>look I
lose in looks<br />
&#8217;to become&#8217; &amp; &#8216;to appear&#8217; are the same<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">a <span class="SpellE">contrario</span> goof</i>,
a spell behaved<br />
souvenir pinch painted wardens<br />
scared to fake redress by projective graphic lids<br />
laid eyes on &#8211; what opals, what clovers, eye-level stress<br />
imagery sale cipher fitted to inwards as if<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>into the distance:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="SpellE">simulcrayon</span> <span class="SpellE">scopafidelity</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Andrews describes his process on the back cover of
the Coach House volume in very straightforward terms: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Its &#8216;<span class="SpellE">christmases</span> of the
heart in syllables&#8217; take Dante&#8217;s thematic cues &amp; path through ten concentric
planetary bodies to <span class="SpellE">rechoreograph</span> several years&#8217;
worth of poetic raw material of mine &#8211; on love, erotic intimacy, gender
socialization &amp; the body. Dante&#8217;s topics &amp; <span class="SpellE">tercents</span>
&amp; punctuation give its 100 parts their internal shape, with a drastic constructivism
of syntax, with denotations &amp; fluidities magnetizing its word-to-word
attractions or <span class="GramE">pushes</span> &amp; pulls as &#8216;valedictory
honeymoon burns in the pagination&#8217;.</div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">What <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Lip
Service</i> is not, then, is either free writing or a homophonic translation of
</span><st1:place><span class="SpellE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Para</span></i></span></st1:place><span class="SpellE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">diso</span></i></span><span style="font-family: Arial;">. Its actual
relation to Dante&#8217;s work is at the level of structure &#8211; akin perhaps to Joyce&#8217;s
use of Homer&#8217;s poem in <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Ulysses</i> but
with one eye toward the exoskeletal features of the text. Without going into
the thematic correspondences between Dante&#8217;s work and <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Lip Service</i>, the passage above &#8211; picked primarily because I want to
think a little about that remarkable last line &#8211; seems to me perfectly
readable. It is neither <span class="SpellE">asyntactic</span> nor non-narrative.
Built out of Andrews&#8217; reservoir of &#8220;poetic raw material,&#8221; one could conceivably
argue that it is a hodge-podge of found language, jumbled together into an
aesthetically pleasing shape. <span class="GramE">But a closer reading reveals &#8211;
constantly, throughout the entire </span></span><st1:state><st1:place><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial;">tex</span></span></st1:place></st1:state><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial;">t &#8211; that more is going on.</span></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">The opening line of this passage is an address to a
named <span class="GramE">Other</span> &amp; addresses, in fact, the form of the
poem itself (with the articles removed a la Ginsberg). The next line appears to
shift context entirely &amp; in fact does. Doing so, the language moves away
from comment toward prosody, thus it also <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">pumps.</i>
But that is as much a comment on the form as was the prior line. The third line
shifts again. As it does, it invokes two other aspects of language &#8211; its role
as <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">embodiment of voice</i>, thus
insinuating character, and as depicter of the visual. The line is a good
example, actually, of Andrews&#8217; sense of humor, which generally has a lighter or
<span class="GramE">more mellow</span> touch in <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Lip Service</i> than the biting sarcasm of his earlier writing. The
humor is couched precisely in the alliteration of the line itself: &#8220;look I like
lose in looks.&#8221; Looking here may lead to a sense of presence &#8211; we hear a voice,
perfectly identifiable with that first line to the Charm Master &#8211; but we don&#8217;t
see so much as we hear. The fourth line in the passage can be read as a direct
comment on the problem: you appear, therefore you are. The italicized phrase in
the sixth line is a metacomment on the entire passage, joining (by no
coincidence) Italian to a noun associated with Allen Ginsberg. Andrews is
invoking multiple lines of simultaneous heritage here. The phrase that is not
italicized (i.e. in <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">roman</i> type) is
itself </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">furth</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">er metacomment &#8211; with a soft pun echoing out from <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">spell</i> to an absent <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">spelling.</i> <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Metacommentary, the use of one line as a kind of an
equivalence with its predecessor, but composed in such a fashion as to also (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">déjà toujours)</i> further the argument, is
a fundamental poetic process, proceeding forward by operating precisely along
what Roman Jakobson used to characterize as the vertical axis of language.
While it is not identical to metaphor, the process is not far removed. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">The four terms of the next line &#8220;souvenir pinch
painted wardens&#8221; can be read as a single complex noun phrase <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">and</i> as four characterizations of a
writer&#8217;s relation to the use of appropriated language. A halfway attentive
reader will even hear the joke in the term <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">wardens</i>,
that old double meaning of <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">parole</i>.
The line which follows is also a complex phrase, one that invokes multiple
approaches to contemporary writing:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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&lt;![if !supportLists]&gt;<span style="font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">&#167;<span style="font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">as trauma
testimony (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">scared</i>)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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&lt;![if !supportLists]&gt;<span style="font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">&#167;<span style="font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">as sincerity (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">to fake</i>), a concept that insinuates both
Zukofsky&#8217;s test of poetry as well as the mock humility of <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">American Poetry Review</i> free verse<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">as identarian
advocacy (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">redress</i>) <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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&lt;![if !supportLists]&gt;<span style="font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">&#167;<span style="font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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the contradiction here is <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">not</i>
accidental &#8211; persona (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">by projective</i>)
and voice-as-breath-as-persona (Black mountain projectivism)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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&lt;![if !supportLists]&gt;<span style="font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">&#167;<span style="font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">as sight,
depiction (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">graphic</i>)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="font-family: Arial;">as object,
closed containers of content (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">lids</i>),
with of course that back-pun towards sight hidden in the suggested &#8220;eyelids&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">The following directly
addresses language&#8217;s relationship to sight &#8211; one of the most interesting and
still under-theorized linguistic dimensions we have &#8211; but ends it with a term (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">stress</i>) that also invokes metrics &amp;
does so after bringing in the visual domain not a specifics but as categories (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">what X, what Y</i>). The line after this &#8211;
&#8220;imagery sale cipher fitted to inwards as if&#8221; &#8211; is the most polemic in this
passage, suggesting as it does that visual details are in fact mechanisms by
which the language of the written pulls the reader into a mode of subjective
acceptance. The next-to-last-line here, &#8220;into the distance,&#8221; <span class="GramE">follows,</span>
suggesting that this interiority is thus projected outward as if real or
objective. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Which
brings us to our pair of neologisms: <span class="SpellE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">simulcrayon</i></span><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"> <span class="SpellE">scopafidelity</span>.</i></span></span><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;"> </span></i><span style="font-family: Arial;">The first jokingly characterizes the omnipresence of immanence&#8217;s lush <span class="SpellE">visuality</span> &#8211; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">it&#8217;s just
there, everywhere.</i> The second suggests that the allegiance of the visual
world is to a state that could be characterized as psychotropic or drugged. It
projects us, and is as much an element of ideology in the <span class="SpellE">Althusserian</span>
sense of that term as any aural or vulgarly political paradigm. It constitutes
the field of our interior lives.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">None of this is rocket
science. I haven&#8217;t even broached the question of Dante and the layers of
meaning waiting at that level. But I&#8217;ve performed this sort of reading exercise
before with texts by writers as diverse as Charles Bernstein &amp; </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Rae Armantrout</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">. Andrews is using poetry to make an argument here,
quite like Dante, and the exposition is hardly impenetrable. Nor is his thesis
so revolutionary that it should cause a reader to stumble. None of it requires
the kind of mind-numbing detail that I&#8217;ve laid out here &#8211; a casual reader
should be able to sense almost all of this just perusing the text. Any college
senior, regardless of major, who can&#8217;t pick up 80 percent of it just by reading
the passage above ought to demand a refund of his or her tuition &#8211; because this
isn&#8217;t scholarship, <span class="GramE">it&#8217;s</span> literacy. And the inability to
do this suggests a pretty sad state of affairs.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">I am amazed, therefore,
and invariably depressed, whenever I see &#8211; as I do too often in even our most
famous literary critics &amp; in more than a few poets &#8211; that this basic level
of reading competence appears to be missing. It&#8217;s almost a form of aphasia, as
though the reader were a citizen of the cinematic city of </span><st1:city><st1:place><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Pleasantville</span></i></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;"> before the advent of color. Thus I take Andrews&#8217;
suggestion that the <span class="GramE">vocabulary of color itself, and all the
other linguistic minutiae of the &#8220;reality effect,&#8221; including voice, projection,
even character, are</span> a part of this conspiracy to make idiots of us all
quite seriously. How else explain how someone like <a href="http://www.ablemuse.com/poetry/rwakefield-boy.htm">Richard Wakefield</a> cannot
see what is wonderful, say, in the work of Jena Osman? How else explain the
idea that language poetry is either asyntactical or non-narrative?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Bernheimer, James Sherry, </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Tom Mandel</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> and myself</span><span style="font-family: Arial;">.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">A lot of what follows comes from Nat
Anderson&#8217;s wonderful omnibus literary calendar for </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Philadelphia</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, augmented primarily by the
calendar at the Writers House web site (which Nat&#8217;s calendar seems to miss more
often than not). The readings listed below are simply those I&#8217;m interested in.
If I get to one quarter of them, I&#8217;ll be doing very well. I know there are
things I&#8217;m missing (e.g. Eileen Myles and Erica Hunt are supposed to be at </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Temple</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> in the <span class="GramE">Spring</span>).
So I may update it from time to time. Feel free to send me info of readings you
think I should be including.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">10, Thursday, 8: Novelist <span class="SpellE">Salman</span> Rushdie</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> (</span><st1:time hour="0" minute="0"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Midnight</span></i></st1:time><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">'s Children</span></i><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Satanic Verses</i>, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Step
Across This Line</i>), with the Pine Tree Foundation Endowed Lecture, </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Philadelphia</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Lectures, </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Montgomery</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Auditorium, <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Free Library of </b></span><st1:city><st1:place><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Philadelphia</span></b></st1:place></st1:city><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, </span></b><st1:street><st1:address><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">1901 Vine Street</span></b></st1:address></st1:street><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">. Tickets $12<span class="GramE">,or</span>
$8 for students, available through <span class="SpellE">UpStages</span>,
215-569-9700, with a $2 handling fee per ticket. <span class="GramE">Inquiries to
Andy <span class="SpellE">Kahan</span> or Sara Goddard at 215-567-4341.</span> <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">13, Sunday, 3-5: Four </span></b><st1:state><st1:place><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">New Jersey</span></b></st1:place></st1:state><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Poets -- Alicia <span class="SpellE">Askenase</span>, Therese <span class="SpellE">Halsheid</span>, Toni <span class="SpellE">Libro</span>, and BJ Ward -- at the </span></b><st1:place><st1:placename><span class="SpellE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Manayunk</span></b></span></st1:placename><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></b><st1:placename><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Art</span></b></st1:placename><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></b><st1:placename><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Center</span></b></st1:placename></st1:place><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, </span></b><st1:street><st1:address><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">419 Green Lane</span></b></st1:address></st1:street><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> (rear) in <span class="SpellE">Manayunk</span>.
$4 donation requested. For further information, call Poetry Director Peter <span class="SpellE">Krok</span> at 215-482-3363 or 610-789-4692, or MacPoet1@aol.com.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">17, Thursday, 4:30: Bob Holman</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, dubbed "Ringmaster of the Spoken Word" by Henry
Louis Gates, <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly Writers House, 3805
Locust Walk,</b> on the Penn campus. <span class="GramE">Part of the 215
Festival.</span> For more information, call 215-573-WRIT.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">17, Thursday, 8: Poet Robin Blaser</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The</i> <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Holy Forest, Even on Sunday, Astonishments</i>,
librettist for Sir Harrison <span class="SpellE">Birtwistle's</span> opera <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Last Supper</i>), <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Temple Writers Series, Temple University Graduate Creative Writing
Program, Temple Gallery, 45 North 2nd Street</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">21, Monday, 8: Novelist and <span class="SpellE">semiotician</span>
Umberto Eco</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">(The Name of the Rose, Foucault's Pendulum, <span class="SpellE">Baudolino</span></i>), Philadelphia Lectures, Montgomery
Auditorium, <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Free Library of </b></span><st1:city><st1:place><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Philadelphia</span></b></st1:place></st1:city><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, </span></b><st1:street><st1:address><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">1901 Vine Street</span></b></st1:address></st1:street><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">.</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Tickets
$12<span class="GramE">,or</span> $8 for students, available through <span class="SpellE">UpStages</span>, 215-569 9700, with a $2 handling fee per ticket. <span class="GramE">Inquiries to Andy <span class="SpellE">Kahan</span> or Sara Goddard
at 215-567-4341.</span> <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">22, Tuesday, 7: Jessica <span class="SpellE">Hagedorn</span></span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> (National Book Award nominee for <span class="SpellE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Dogeaters</i></span><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">, Gangster of Love</i>, the poetry
collection <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Danger and Beauty</i>, the
anthology <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Charlie Chan Is Dead</i>), <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly Writers House, 3805 Locust Walk, </b>on
the Penn campus. For more information, call 215-573-WRIT.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">22, Tuesday, 7:30: Novelist and <span class="SpellE">semiotician</span>
Umberto Eco</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Name of the Rose, Foucault's Pendulum, <span class="SpellE">Baudolino</span></i>), in a reading sponsored by the <span class="SpellE">Gelllert</span> Fund, <span class="SpellE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Goodhart</b></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"> Theatre,
Bryn <span class="SpellE">Mawr</span> College, Bryn <span class="SpellE">Mawr</span></b>.
For further information, contact Helene <span class="SpellE">Studdy</span> at the
Bryn <span class="SpellE">Mawr</span> College Office for the Arts, 610-526-5210.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">24, Thursday, 8: CA Conrad and Frank Sherlock</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> read from their collaborative
poetry project in which they lead each other through different areas of the
city and write about the experience, <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Molly's
Cafe and Bookstore, 1010 South 9th Street</b>, in the heart of the Italian
Market, 215-923-3367.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">27, Sunday, 3: Singing Horse Press presents</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Poet-Publishers
Take the Stage</i> -- readings by <span class="SpellE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Rosmarie</b></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"> Waldrop</b>
(<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Split Infinites</i>), <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Lewis <span class="SpellE">Warsh</span></b> (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Touch of the Whip</i>), and <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Chris McCreary</b> (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Effacements</i>) at the </span><st1:place><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Painted</span></st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Bride</span></st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Art</span></st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Center</span></st1:placename></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, </span><st1:street><st1:address><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">230 Vine Street</span></st1:address></st1:street><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">. <span class="GramE">$10, $5 for
members.</span> Visit <a href="http://www.paintedbride.org/">www.paintedbride.org</a>
or call 215-925-9914 for more information.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">30, Wednesday, </span></b><st1:time hour="19" minute="0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">7 PM</span></b></st1:time><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> (<span class="GramE">eastern time</span>)</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> A reading and conversation with <b>CARL
RAKOSI</b> via live <span class="SpellE">audiocast</span>. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly Writers House, 3805 Locust Walk, </b>on the Penn campus. For more
information, call 215-573-WRIT or see the special website: <a href="http://www.english.upenn.edu/~wh/rakosi.html">www.english.upenn.edu/~wh/rakosi.html</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">6, Wednesday, </span></b><st1:time hour="17" minute="0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">5:00</span></b></st1:time><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">: John Norton, </span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">author of an experimental novella <i>Re:
Marriage</i> (</span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">: Black Star Series) was published
in 2000. A book of prose poems and sketches <i>The Light at the End of the Bog</i>
(San Francisco: Black Star Series, 1989, 1992) won an American Book Award. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly Writers House, 3805 Locust Walk, </b>on
the Penn campus. For more information, call 215-573-WRIT.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">7, Thursday, </span></b><st1:time hour="19" minute="30"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">7:30</span></b></st1:time><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">:</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Award-winning poets and fiction writers <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Michael Ondaatje</b> (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The English Patient, Anil's Ghost, Running in the Family, In the Skin
of the Lion, The Cinnamon Peeler, Handwriting</i>) <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">and Fanny Howe</b> (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Selected
Poems, One Crossed Out, The End, Nod, Robeson Street</i>). <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Walt Whitman Cultural Arts Center, 2nd &amp; Cooper Streets, Camden NJ</b>,
1-856-964-8300 or wwhitman@waltwhitmancenter.org. <span class="GramE">$6; $4 to
students and seniors; free to members.</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">12, Tuesday, 5:00: Forrest Gander</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, the author of five poetry books, including <i>Torn Awake</i>
and <i>Science &amp; <span class="SpellE">Steepleflower</span></i>, both from New
Directions. He is the editor of <i>Mouth to Mouth: Poems by Twelve Contemporary
Mexican Women</i> and the translator, most recently, of <i>No Shelter: Selected
Poems of <span class="SpellE">Pura</span> Lopez <span class="SpellE">Colome</span></i>
and (with Kent Johnson) <i>Immanent Visitor: <span class="GramE">The</span>
Selected Poems of Jaime Saenz</i>. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly
Writers House, 3805 Locust Walk, </b>on the Penn campus. For more information,
call 215-573-WRIT.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">13, Wednesday, </span></b><st1:time hour="19" minute="30"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">7:30</span></b></st1:time><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">: "Not To Be: Poetical Parody,
Mock-Ups, &amp; Outright Lies</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">": the </span><st1:place><st1:placename><span class="SpellE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Rosenbach</span></span></st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span><st1:placetype><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Museum</span></st1:placetype></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> and Library sponsors "an
evening of poetic riffs and rip-offs" in conjunction with their <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Making Shakespeare</i> exhibition, including
William Henry Ireland's infamous forgeries. This panel of poets, reading both
historical parodies and their own more seriously allusive work, will feature <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Nathalie Anderson, Rachel Blau DuPlessis,
Daisy Fried, Paul Muldoon, and </b></span><st1:personname><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Bob Perelman</span></b></st1:personname><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">. </span></b><st1:place><st1:placename><span class="SpellE"><span class="GramE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Rosenbach</span></b></span></span></st1:placename><span class="GramE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></b></span><st1:placetype><span class="GramE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Museum</span></b></span></st1:placetype></st1:place><span class="GramE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> and Library, </span></b></span><st1:street><st1:address><span class="GramE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">2008 <span class="SpellE">DeLancey</span> Place</span></b></span></st1:address></st1:street><span class="GramE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">.</span></b></span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> For more information, call 215-732-1600, or see <a href="http://www.rosenbach.org/">www.rosenbach.org</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">14, Thursday, Nathaniel Tarn &amp; Toby Olson, </span></b><st1:time hour="18" minute="0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">6:00</span></b></st1:time><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">:</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Two
veteran poets &amp; authors who really need no introduction here. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly Writers House, 3805 Locust Walk, </b>on
the Penn campus. For more information, call 215-573-WRIT.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">14, Thursday, 8: Pierre Joris</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> (<span class="SpellE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Poasis</i></span><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">: Selected Poems 1986-1999, 4x1: <span class="SpellE">Tzara</span>, Rilke, <span class="SpellE">Duprey</span> &amp; <span class="SpellE">Tengour</span></i> translated by Joris, translator of Celan,
Picasso, <span class="SpellE">Blanchot</span>, Kerouac and <span class="SpellE">Abdelwahab</span>
<span class="SpellE">Meddeb</span>, co-editor with Jerome Rothenberg of the
two-volume <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Poems for the Millennium</i> anthology,
<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Toward a Nomadic Poetics</i>), <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Temple Writers Series, Temple University
Graduate Creative Writing Program, Temple University Center City, 1515 Market.<o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">18, Monday, 7: George <span class="SpellE">Economou</span> &amp; Rochelle
Owens. </span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Two of the
younger poets associated with the New American poetry and around such journals
as <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Caterpillar. </i>Both have recently
moved to </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Philadelphia</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly Writers
House, 3805 Locust Walk, </b>on the Penn campus. For more information, call
215-573-WRIT<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">3, Tuesday, Time TBA: Rachel Blau DuPlessis. </span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Among her books are <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Drafts 1-38, Toll</i> (Wesleyan, 2001), part
of her long poem project, and <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Genders,
Races, and Religious Cultures in Modern American Poetry, 1908-1934</i> (</span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Cambridge</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, 2001). She is also the author of <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Writing Beyond the Ending: Narrative
Strategies of Twentieth-Century Women Writers</i> (1985), <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">H.D.: The Career of that Struggle</i> (1986), both from Indiana
University Press, and <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Pink Guitar:
Writing as Feminist Practice </i>(<span class="SpellE">Routledge</span>, 1990), a
book of experimental essays. She is the editor of <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Selected Letters of George Oppen</i> (Duke University Press, 1990),
and the co-editor of three anthologies: <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The
Objectivist Nexus: Essays in Cultural Poetics</i> (</span><st1:state><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Alabama</span></st1:place></st1:state><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, 1999), <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Feminist Memoir Project: Voices from Women's Liberation</i> (Three
Rivers/Crown, 1998) and <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Signets: Reading
H.D.</i> (</span><st1:state><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Wisconsin</span></st1:place></st1:state><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, 1990). <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly Writers House, 3805 Locust Walk, </b>on the Penn campus. For more
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">4, Wednesday,</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">
2 events with <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Michael Ondaatje</b> at </span><st1:state><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Penn.</span></st1:place></st1:state><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span><st1:time hour="13" minute="0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">1:00 PM</span></b></st1:time><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">: Lunch with author <b>Michael Ondaatje</b> sponsored by
Women's Studies, and co-sponsored with the Kelly Writers House. RSVP to
wh@english.upenn.edu.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></span><st1:time hour="16" minute="30"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">4:30 PM</span></b></st1:time><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">: <b>Michael Ondaatje</b> will read
at Penn location TBA, sponsored by Women's Studies. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">26, Wednesday, </span></b><st1:time hour="16" minute="30"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">4:30 PM</span></b></st1:time><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">: The Poet &amp; Painters series presents poet <b>Ron Padgett</b>. <span class="SpellE"><span class="GramE">Cosponsered</span></span><span class="GramE"> with
the </span></span><st1:place><st1:placename><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Graduate</span></span></st1:placename><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></span><st1:placetype><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">School</span></span></st1:placetype></st1:place><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> of Fine Arts and
the Creative Writing Program.</span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Padgett is also the author of <i>New &amp; Selected Poems</i>
(David R. <span class="SpellE">Godine</span>, 1995), <i>The Big Something</i>
(1990), <i>Triangles in the Afternoon</i> (1979), <i>Great Balls of Fire</i>
(1969), and other collections. Two new volumes are forthcoming: <i>Poems I
Guess I Wrote</i> and <i>You Never Know</i>. ). <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly Writers House, 3805 Locust Walk, </b>on the Penn campus. For more
information, call 215-573-WRIT<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">27, Thursday, Norma Cole</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> &#8211; may be reading at Writers House, </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Temple</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> or both.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="GramE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">5, Wednesday, </span></b></span><st1:time hour="12" minute="0"><span class="GramE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Noon</span></b></span></st1:time><span class="GramE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">.</span></b></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></b><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Lunchtime discussion with <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Johanna <span class="SpellE">Drucker</span>, </b>poet
and book artist.</span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">
</span><st1:time hour="18" minute="0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">6:00 PM</span></b></st1:time><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, </span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">reading. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly Writers House, 3805 Locust Walk</b>,
on the Penn campus. For more information, call 215-573-WRIT<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">11, Tuesday, </span></b><st1:time hour="16" minute="30"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">4:30 PM</span></b></st1:time><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">: The Poet &amp; Painter Series presents </span><st1:personname><b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Steve Clay</span></b></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> Editor of <a href="http://www.granarybooks.com/">Granary Books</a>. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly</b> <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Writers House, 3805
Locust Walk</b>, on the Penn campus. For more information, call 215-573-WRIT<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">19, Wednesday, </span></b><st1:time hour="17" minute="0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">5:00 PM</span></b></st1:time><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">: <span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">Dennis Barone</span></span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">. He is the author of three books of short fiction: <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Abusing the Telephone</i> (Drogue Press, 1994), <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Returns</i> (Sun &amp; Moon Press, 1996), and Echoes (Potes &amp;
Poets Press, 1997). He is also the author of a novella, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Temple of the Rat</i> (Left Hand Books, 2000), and he is editor of <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Beyond the Red Notebook: Essays on Paul
Auster</i> (University of Pennsylvania Press, 1995). Most recently <span class="SpellE">Quale</span> Press published <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The
Disguise of Events</i>, a chapbook (July, 2002). Left Hand Books published his
selected poems, entitled <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Separate Objects</i>,
in 1998. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly</b> <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Writers House, 3805 Locust Walk</b>, on the Penn campus. For more
information, call 215-573-WRIT<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">20, Thursday, Time TBA: Brad <span class="SpellE">Leithauser</span></span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly</b> <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Writers House, 3805
Locust Walk</b>, on the Penn campus. For more information, call 215-573-WRIT<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">27, Thursday, 8: Symposium on Blues, Jazz, and American Literature</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">, with Pew Fellows <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Sonia Sanchez</b> (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Does Your House Have Lions?</i> and <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Shake
Loose My Skin: New and Selected Poems</i>) and <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Major Jackson</b> (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Leaving Saturn</i>),
with critics <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Robert <span class="SpellE">O'Meally</span></b>
(Director of the Center for Jazz Studies at Columbia University, editor of the
anthology <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The</i> <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Jazz Cadence of American Culture</i>, biographer of Billie Holiday etc)
and <span class="SpellE"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Farah</b></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"> Griffin</b> (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">If You Can't Be Free, Be A Mystery: In Search of Billie Holiday</i>). <span class="SpellE"><span class="GramE">Scheuer</span></span><span class="GramE"> Room
Kohlberg Hall, </span></span><st1:place><st1:placename><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Swarthmore</span></span></st1:placename><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span></span><st1:placetype><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">College</span></span></st1:placetype></st1:place><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">.</span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> For further information, contact
Peter Schmidt at pschmid1@swarthmore.edu.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">3, Thursday, </span></b><st1:time hour="16" minute="30"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">4:30</span></b></st1:time><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">: Simon Ortiz, </span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">the great </span><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Acoma</span></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> poet. <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Kelly</b> <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Writers House, 3805
Locust Walk</b>, on the Penn campus. For more information, call 215-573-WRIT.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">8, Tuesday, 7:30: </span></b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Nobel Prize winning poet<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"> Derek
Walcott </b>(<span class="SpellE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Omeros</i></span><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">, <span class="SpellE">Tiepolo's</span> Hound,
The Bounty, The Odyssey: A Stage Version, What the Twilight Says</i>), in a
reading sponsored by the Marianne Moore Fund for the Study of Poetry, <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Thomas Great Hall, Bryn <span class="SpellE">Mawr</span>
College, Bryn <span class="SpellE">Mawr</span></b>. For further information,
contact Helene <span class="SpellE">Studdy</span> at the Bryn <span class="SpellE">Mawr</span>
College Office for the Arts, 610-526-5210.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>What does it
mean to rethink the poetry of the 1950s &amp; &#8216;60s without the canonical
boundaries set out in Donald Allen&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The
New American Poetry </i>(<i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>NAP</i>)<i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>?</i> Eliot Weinberger asked the question
and it certainly is one worth considering further.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Implicit in
Weinberger&#8217;s question is an argument that the categories established by that
volume &#8211; </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>, the San Francisco Renaissance, the
Beats, the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> &#8211; were artificial in nature &amp; not
borne out by practice. In his view, some poets, such as Theodore Roethke,
Robert Lowell, Kenneth Patchen, Muriel Rukeyser or Kenneth Rexroth, move closer
to an avant-garde while fracture lines between different subspecies of New
American, such as </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:
  Arial;color:black'>Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> poets &amp; the Beats, are viewed as
more serious. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>There is no
question that Allen&#8217;s groupings are open to challenge. How Paul Carroll gets to
be a </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> poet or why Gary Snyder, Lawrence
Ferlinghetti or Michael McClure <span class=GramE>are</span> <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>not</i> part of the Beat Generation would
require, at minimum, lengthy &amp; convoluted arguments. And as I&#8217;ve noted
before, conflict is hardly extraneous to poetry. Edgar Allan Poe was involved
in the great disputes of the 1840s between the Young Americans and the Boston
&#8220;school of quietude,&#8221; a chasm that remains largely uncrossed to this day.*<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>I&#8217;m part of that
large generation of American poets whose interest in poetry was greatly
encouraged &amp; informed by the Allen anthology and it is no doubt difficult
for me to step back and imagine it as having not existed. In fact, the sharpest
insight I can get into the militancy of the period comes from comparing the
Allen with <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>A Controversy of Poets, </i>co-edited
by Paris Leary and Robert Kelly just five years after the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>NAP.** <o:p></o:p></i></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Controversy</span></i><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> is intriguing in part precisely because
the book takes &#8220;the war of the anthologies&#8221; &amp; the divide between the New
Americans and the </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>Lowell</span></st1:place></st1:City><span style='font-family:
Arial;color:black'> generation of the &#8220;school of quietude&#8221; quite for granted.
The premise of the book was that a representative of each tendency (Kelly for
the Americans, Leary for quietude) would select 30 writers who &#8220;represent&#8230;the
most significant American poetry.&#8221; Because one of Kelly&#8217;s selections, Robert Duncan,
declined, the finished volume includes 59 writers. Editorially, putting the
poets into alphabetical order favored the New Americans, as the first three up
were John Ashbery, Paul Blackburn and Robin Blaser.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>While Kelly
&amp; Leary don&#8217;t identify which selections were made by which editor, the
choices are patently obvious. Further, each editor wrote a separate &amp;
competing afterword, Kelly&#8217;s supplementing his with a list of 39 additional
writers from whose work &#8220;an anthology of comparable merit could have been
derived.&#8221; Of the 44 poets included in the Allen anthology and divided into five
sections &#8211; Black Mountain, SF Renaissance, Beat, NY School and &#8220;Other&#8221; &#8211; <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Controversy</i> includes 21. In addition, 10
other New Americans are listed in Kelly&#8217;s afterword. 13 New Americans are
neither included nor listed in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Controversy</i>.
Eight poets not found in the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>New American
</i>poetry are included in Kelly&#8217;s selections for <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>Controversy.</i> Kelly&#8217;s supplemental list identifies 29 additional
poets not included in the Allen anthology. And, of course, Paris Leary&#8217;s half
of the volume contains 30 other poets almost entirely outside of New American
concerns &#8211; the closest probably being Thomas Merton &amp; Adrienne Rich. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Numbers don&#8217;t
tell the complete story. It is worth noting precisely who shows up where. Of
the five sections in the Allen anthology, three contain more than ten poets &#8211;
the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> section with 10, which also gets pride
of position, going first. The </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> scene follows with 13 poets, while the
grab bag <span class=GramE>Other</span> comes at the very end with 11. Only
four writers are included in the Beat section, although Other contains eight
writers (Whalen, <span class=SpellE>Perkoff</span>, Snyder, McClure, <span
class=SpellE>Bremser</span>, Jones, Wieners &amp; Meltzer) who might also have
been shifted into that section.*** The six poets contained in the New York
School have no counterparts tucked away in other sections. Duncan is included
in the Black Mountain section even though he was clearly the most forceful poet
who was on the San Francisco scene in more than a transitory fashion<span
class=GramE>.+</span> As a whole, <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The New
American Poetry</i> emphasizes Black Mountain, overemphasizes San Francisco,
gives short shrift to the New York School and edits the Beats in such a way as
to mute that tendency&#8217;s force within the larger scene. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>It is important
to note just how ill-defined the </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> section is. With </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Duncan</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> misplaced amid the projectivists of </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>, the San Francisco Renaissance poets
there have no perceptible center. Adam, Antoninus, Broughton and Gleason really
don&#8217;t make sense as a community sans Duncan or Rexroth. You could put Blaser
and probably <span class=SpellE>Borregaard</span> into the </span><st1:Street><st1:address><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Spicer Circle</span></st1:address></st1:Street><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>, although Joanne Kyger, Harold Dull and
George Stanley would have been a better representation. But Ferlinghetti,
Welch, Lamantia, <span class=SpellE>Duerden</span>, Boyd &amp; Doyle simply
don&#8217;t gel with either of these other two groups. Lumping at least three
phenomena into one pot both overstates </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>&#8217;s role as a literary force and blurs the
actual dynamics which were represented there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Robert Kelly&#8217;s
portion of <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>A Controversy of Poets </i>has
very different dynamics. Of his 29 poets, the following were in the Allen
anthology:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Paul Blackburn<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Robert Creeley<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Edward Dorn<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Larry Eigner<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Denise Levertov<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Charles Olson<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Joel Oppenheimer<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Jonathan Williams<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Robin Blaser<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-size:
  12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Lawrence</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Ferlinghetti<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Jack Spicer<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>John Ashbery<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Edward Field<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Frank O'Hara<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Gregory <span class=SpellE>Corso</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Allen Ginsberg<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span class=SpellE><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>LeRoi</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'> Jones<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Michael McClure<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Gary Snyder<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>John Wieners<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Edward Marshall<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Of the ten Black
Mountain poets in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>NAP</i>, eight are
included here &amp; </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>Duncan</span></st1:place></st1:City><span style='font-family:
Arial;color:black'> would have made it nine if he had relented. Roughly half of
three of the other groups in <span class=GramE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>NAP</i><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&#160; </span>&#8211;</span> the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>, the Beats &amp; Other &#8211; are also
included in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Controversy</i>. But only
three of the 10 </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> poets in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>NAP </i>make it into <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Controversy.
</i>This isn&#8217;t too terribly surprising. The choices reflect Robert Kelly&#8217;s own
commitments as a poet fairly clearly. But as a statement of &#8220;the most
significant American poetry,&#8221; it&#8217;s open to question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ten of the 39
poets listed in Kelly&#8217;s afterword are likewise included in <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>NAP:</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Helen Adam<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Richard <span class=SpellE>Duerden</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Robert Duncan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Philip Lamantia<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Ron <span class=SpellE>Loewinsohn</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>David Meltzer<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Peter <span class=SpellE>Orlovsky</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Gilbert <span class=SpellE>Sorrentino</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Lew Welch<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Philip Whalen<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Again, we find
disparities, although some no doubt have much to do with what remained from the
original 44 poets of the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>NAP. </i>Four
poets each <span class=GramE>are</span> listed from the </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> (Adam, <span class=SpellE>Duerden</span>,
Lamantia and Welch) and the lugubrious Other (<span class=SpellE>Loewinsohn</span>,
Meltzer, <span class=SpellE>Sorrentino</span> and Whalen). </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Duncan</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> is included from the <span class=SpellE><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>NAP&#8217;s</i></span> </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> section and <span class=SpellE>Orlovsky</span>
from the Beat one. Not a single </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> poet is added.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>By the time
Kelly is through, only Paul Carroll from both the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> section of the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>NAP</i> has been entirely excluded as well as only one representative
of the Beat generation. Interestingly, only two citizens of <span class=GramE>Other</span>
are similarly not mentioned or included. But six of </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>&#8217;s 13 poets and half of the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>&#8217;s much smaller cluster of six have been
rendered <span class=SpellE>nonpersons</span>. The disappeared include the
following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Brother Antoninus<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span class=SpellE><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ebbe</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'> <span class=SpellE>Borregaard</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Bruce Boyd<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Ray <span class=SpellE>Bremser</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>James Broughton<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Paul Carroll<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Kirby Doyle<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Madeline Gleason<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Barbara Guest<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Jack Kerouac<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Kenneth Koch<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Stuart Z. <span class=SpellE>Perkoff</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>James Schuyler<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>While one might
make a case for excluding a couple of the poets, such as Boyd or Doyle, the
others are notably harder to justify. One might argue that Kerouac was
primarily a novelist &#8211; Bill Burroughs, for example, was never included in the
Allen &#8211; but the excision of Koch, Schuyler and Guest is worthy of a raised
eyebrow. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Kelly added
eight new poets to the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>NAP</i> core of 21
to his portion of <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Controversy:<o:p></o:p></i></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Theodore Enslin<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Robert Kelly<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span class=SpellE><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Gerrit</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'> Lansing<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Jackson Mac Low<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Rochelle Owens<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Jerome Rothenberg<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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6.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8;tab-stops:
list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings;
color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Diane <span class=SpellE>Wakoski</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Louis
Zukofsky<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>With the
exception of Zukofsky &amp; to a lesser degree Mac Low, the other six are poets
who will all soon be associated with the journal <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>Caterpillar</i>, edited by Clayton Eshleman with Kelly on board as an
advisor. No poets associated with the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>, the Beats, nor the San Francisco Scene <span
class=GramE>are</span> added. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>The same
tendencies are only slightly modified in the list of 29 non-<i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>NAP </i>poets Kelly mentions in his
afterword:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Cid
Corman<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Judson
<span class=SpellE>Crewes</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Guy
Davenport<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Vincent
<span class=SpellE>Ferrini</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Max <span
class=SpellE>Finstein</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Jonathan
Greene<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Kenneth
Irby<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>M.C.
Richards<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Frank
<span class=SpellE>Samperi</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Charles
Stein<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Richard
<span class=SpellE>Brautigan</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>George
Stanley<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>John
Thorpe<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Lorine
Niedecker<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>George
Oppen<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Kathleen
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Diane
<span class=SpellE>Di</span> Prima<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Ed
Sanders<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
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style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>David
Antin<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>George
<span class=SpellE>Economou</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Clayton
Eshleman<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Armand
<span class=SpellE>Schwerner</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Carole
Berge<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-family:
  Arial;color:black'>Seymour</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> Faust<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Steve
Jonas<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>John
Keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Barbara
<span class=SpellE>Moraff</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
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style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Margaret
Randall<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&#167;<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Susan
Sherman<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>The first ten
poets on this list, more than a third, can be interpreted as neo-Black Mountain
writers, either by style (Irby, Greene, <span class=GramE>Stein</span>) or
personal association (<span class=SpellE>Crewes</span>, Corman, Richards, </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Davenport</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>). Three of the poets might be reasonably
characterized as </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> writers, two are known as Objectivists
&amp; one can make a case for Sanders &amp; <span class=SpellE>Di</span> Prima
as Beats. But only Kathleen Fraser could possibly be interpreted as a </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> poet. Antin, <span class=SpellE>Economou</span>
and <span class=SpellE>Schwerner</span> continue the cluster of poets around
Eshleman and <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Caterpillar. </i>Jonas, Meg
Randall and the others (including the mysterious John Keys, whom I know only as
an associate editor of Fred <span class=SpellE>Wah&#8217;s</span> magazine <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Sum</i> in the early 1960s) do constitute
the sort of <span class=GramE>Other</span> that again points to the limitations
of such clustering in the first place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>My point here is
not to denigrate the value of <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Controversy</i>,
which was (and still is, for that matter, at least the portion for which Kelly
can take credit) a terrific book &#8211; if it marginalizes the New York School, it
nonetheless takes a great chance in presenting all of Frank O&#8217;Hara&#8217;s poem &#8220;<span
class=SpellE>Biotherm</span>,&#8221; squeezed into the volume&#8217;s mass market paperback
format by being reduced literally to 5&#189; point type. When, in 1966, I first
discovered the poetry of Louis Zukofsky on Dick Moore&#8217;s PBS series of that
period, <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Controversy</i> was the only
volume in Cody&#8217;s Books in </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-family:
  Arial;color:black'>Berkeley</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> that contained any of Zukofsky&#8217;s poetry
whatsoever. This volume was where I &#8211; and many other younger poets &#8211; first read
the work of Jackson Mac Low as well. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>But the volume&#8217;s
absences manifestly reflect the perceived &amp; passionately felt militancy of
the various New American tendencies. Missing and unmentioned in <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Controversy</i> as well as in the <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>New American Poetry</i> are the entire second
generation of the New York School (<span class=SpellE>Berkson</span>, <span
class=SpellE>Schjeldahl</span>, Padgett, <span class=SpellE>Elmslie</span>,
Brainard, Berrigan, <span class=SpellE>Warsh</span>, Waldman, Acconci, Mayer,
Gallup, <span class=SpellE>Perreault</span>, <span class=SpellE>MacAdams</span>);
the rest of the Objectivists (Rakosi &amp; Reznikoff); several West Coast poets
(Joanne Kyger, Harold Dull, Stan Persky, Edward van <span class=SpellE>Aelstyn</span>,
Mary <span class=SpellE>Fabilli</span>, David <span class=SpellE>Schaff</span>,
Beverly <span class=SpellE>Dahlen</span>, Al Young, Jim Alexander, other poets
in the Spicer Circle); several neo-Projectivists, (Ronald Johnson, Besmilr
Brigham, George <span class=SpellE>Quasha</span>, Dan Gerber, Duncan <span
class=SpellE>McNaughton</span>, John Clarke, Larry <span class=SpellE>Goodell</span>,
Richard &amp; Linda <span class=SpellE>Grossinger</span>, John Sinclair,
Michael Heller, David Gitin, Toby Olson, d Alexander, Harvey Bialy); and some
poets who are simply impossible to categorize, such as William Bronk, Dick
Higgins, Kirby <span class=SpellE>Congdon</span>, Mary Norbert <span
class=SpellE>Korte</span>, John Cage, Sidney Goldfarb, Gene <span class=SpellE>Frumkin</span>
or Andrew <span class=SpellE>Hoyem</span>. This rattling off of names
represents only a fraction of what was possible. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>While many &#8211;
perhaps most &#8211; of these poets were too young to be considered when Donald Allen
was cobbling together his initial volume with Robert Duncan&#8217;s ever so subtle
advice, most were active and visible by 1965. As the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>Angel Hair</i> <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Anthology</i>
makes quite evident, the second generation NY School had clearly clicked into
place by 1967 at the latest. The subsequent appearance of anthologies by and/or
about both the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> and the Beats can no doubt be traced at
least partly to the failure of both <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>NAP</i>
and <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Controversy</i> to adequately address
the genuine dimensions &amp; concerns of their communities. Similarly, the absence
of such an anthology around the </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> poets can be read as accurate to that
community&#8217;s sense of itself as not one but several overlapping scenes, not all
of which were so terribly thrilled with one another. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=reviewtext><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>All these
competing characterizations of the New American poetry have consequences. In
the current online issue of <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Rain Taxi,</i>
Joanna Fuhrman asks David Shapiro<span class=GramE>,<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&#160; </span></span><a
href="http://www.raintaxi.com/online/2002fall/shapiro.shtml"><span
style='color:black'>&#8220;So what about the state of poetry now?&#8221;</span></a> Shapiro
replies:<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&#160; </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=reviewtext style='margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:
5.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The hardest thing for me
was feeling that the Language school had, as a group, somehow &quot;<span
class=GramE>disappeared</span>&quot; certain </span><st1:State><st1:place><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>New York</span></st1:place></st1:State><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> poets. I put it this way once to Charles Bernstein,
which my son thought was too turbulent a way to put it and he made me call
Charles up to apologize, which I did. But I still sometimes feel that a lot of
us get no credit for what we did between '62 and <span class=GramE>'80 .</span>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=reviewtext style='margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:
5.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>For example, an academic
who will remain nameless once told me she'd never seen 'C' magazine and had
never read Joseph Ceravolo's poetry, and this was after she praised people who
were using the same techniques but much later. In art history, we don't praise
you if you do a drip painting today because we have a sense Jackson Pollock did
it in the winter of '47. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=reviewtext style='margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:
5.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I thought someone like
Joe Ceravolo never really was given his due. Or someone like Dick Gallup, who
had an amazing poem in 'C' magazine called &quot;Life in Darkness.&quot; Now if
it was published, people might say &quot;Very interesting poem in the style of,
let's say, Bruce Andrews,&quot; but that's not really fair.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Shapiro is
absolutely on target about the importance of Ceravolo&#8217;s work, maybe </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Gallup</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>&#8217;s too, but the problem created by these
boundaries was in place long before Bob Grenier thought to hate speech. While
some of the language poets, especially on the West Coast, felt close to
varieties of </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>Post-Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> poetics, others felt just as passionate
about the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>. So it was instructive &#8211; &amp; appalling
&#8211; to see issue after issue of the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Poetry
Project Newsletter</i> in the early &#8216;70s identify all the contributors to
magazines in its &#8220;recently received&#8221; columns except for people like Bruce
Andrews or Barrett Watten. In marked contrast, the very first issue of the
magazine <span class=GramE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>This</i></span><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>, </i>for example, had taken care not just
to include Creeley, Irby and Kelly, but also Anselm Hollo, Anne Waldman and
even Tom Clark. In this sense, I think that Shapiro is right, if hyperbolic, to
employ the trope of &#8220;disappearing&#8221; other poets, but he has his telescope turned
in the wrong direction. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>The real
question isn&#8217;t why <span class=GramE>didn&#8217;t language poetry</span> create
institutions that would preserve and promulgate the value of the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>&#8217;s second generation, but rather why
didn&#8217;t the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>? Just by simple proximity to the </span><st1:State><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:place></st1:State><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> trade publishing industry, several </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> poets, including Gallup, Mac Adams &amp;
Shapiro, were able to publish their first books with trade publishers, access
to broad distribution that to this day no language poet has ever had. What was
it about </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> poetry in the 1980s that it was no
longer able to sustain the work of its own community? It wasn&#8217;t as though the
poets had stopped writing, at least not most of them, or that their poetry
suddenly wasn&#8217;t any good. And I don&#8217;t think the blame can be put entirely on
the death of Ted Berrigan. It is telling that some 15 years later, the press
that has done the most to return the poetry of this generation to print is
Coffee House, which began in the 1970s as the press of the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>&#8217;s western cousin, Actualism. How did the
</span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New
  York</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> come to depend on the kindness of
strangers?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>The problem that
Eliot Weinberger is questioning isn&#8217;t one of the Allen anthology&#8217;s categories
artificially projecting rigid borders where they didn&#8217;t already exist as it is
one of crudely mixing borders &#8211; rather like the </span><st1:place><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>British Empire</span></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> in its 19<sup>th</sup> century
adventures into </span><st1:place><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Africa</span></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> or </span><st1:place><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Central Asia</span></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> &#8211; ignoring already on-the-ground tribal
warfare. The problem of the </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-family:
  Arial;color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> section of the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>New American Poetry</i> is that it projects a phenomenon where none
really existed &#8211; the </span><st1:address><st1:Street><span style='font-family:
  Arial;color:black'>Spicer Circle</span></st1:Street><span style='font-family:
 Arial;color:black'>, </span><st1:City><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>Duncan</span></st1:City></st1:address><span style='font-family:
Arial;color:black'>&#8217;s scene and the neo-Beats there appear to have been more or
less mutually exclusive. In addition, by creating a section as large as that
accorded to </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:Arial;
 color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>, the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>NAP</i>
was able to hide its failure to deal with either the Beats or the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> appropriately. The codifications the
Allen helped to set in motion did not initiate the dynamics that so often made
it hard for many members of these various literary clusters to deal with one
another, but it definitely did not help. To a generation of younger poets, <span
class=GramE>myself</span> included, <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The
New American Poetry</i> offered a map <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>as
given</i> whose projection of reality was as fanciful &amp; full of mythic
dragons staring out of uncharted waters as any that plagued Juan de la <span
class=SpellE>Cosa</span>. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&#160;</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>*
Consider for example Richard Wakefield in last Sunday&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/134547660_best06.html"><span
style='color:black'>Seattle Times</span></a></i>:<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&#160; </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:0in;
margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Most of the poems selected by Robert
Creeley for inclusion in &quot;The Best American Poetry, 2002&quot; are so
awful that the reader is hard put to explain how five or 10 good ones sneaked
in. Perhaps the selection was entirely random &#8212; but that wouldn't explain why
there are so few poems here that are even readable. It's a puzzle.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Given
that the Creeley edition of the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Best
American Poetry </i>is perhaps the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>first</i>
readable volume in the history of that series, one is not shocked to discover
that </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
  Arial;color:black'>Wakefield</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> is a rhyming poet of
the tub-thumping metrics school. </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Wakefield</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&#8217;s example of just how
bad the poetry in the new <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>BAP</i> is
turns out to be Jena <span class=SpellE>Osman&#8217;s</span> &#8220;Starred Together,&#8221; &#8220;a
belabored amalgam of clichéd ideas and limp prose.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>**
Over two dozen copies of <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>A Controversy of
Poets</i> are available through <a href="http://www.abebooks.com/"><span
style='color:black'>abebooks.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>***
The </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> section includes seven
poets &#8211; Broughton, Ferlinghetti, Welch, <span class=SpellE>Duerden</span>,
Lamantia, Boyd and Doyle &#8211; who could also be included in the Beat section. Add <span
class=SpellE>Sorrentino</span>, Jones &amp; Wieners to the Black Mountaineers and
you could have had an anthology with 13 </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Black</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> poets, 19 Beats, 6 </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>New York</span></st1:PlaceName><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span><st1:PlaceType><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>School</span></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> poets and 6 </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> poets. That is a
totally different book, although it would have been more accurate both
aesthetically and sociologically. Of course you could have added Wieners to the
</span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> section as well. But
that&#8217;s precisely the problem with such clustering.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>+
A standing joke when I was a youngster on the scene was that the Beat explosion
in </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:black'>San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> in the mid-1950s could
not have taken place if Robert Duncan had not been in </span><st1:place><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Majorca</span></st1:place><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> at the time because he
simply would not have allowed it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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